The Hag of Palm Beach?

In case you had any doubts that Ann Coulter was worth the air she breathes, allow me to break apart the illusion:

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lashed out at Ann Coulter for a “vicious, mean-spirited attack” on a group of outspoken 9/11 widows, whom the right-wing television pundit described as “self-obsessed” and enjoying their husbands’ deaths.

Coulter writes in a new book, “Godless: The Church of Liberalism,” that a group of New Jersey widows whose husbands perished in the World Trade Center act “as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them.”

She also wrote, “I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much.”

Why such vitriol? Why, these widowed harridans have the audacity to want to know the real story, in detail, behind what happened to their husbands, their families. What traitors!

In truth, maybe the media and others shouldn't ever expect more from someone under investigation for both voter and tax fraud?

Comments

[Xero]

Turns out we are not the only ones who think AC is a whack job. PZ Myers categorizes his remarks about AC under kooks(http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/06/ann_coulter_the_problem_with_e.php ). I'm really looking forward to how she gets tore apart on PandasThumb(http://pandasthumb.org/ ). And I'm sure we are all well aware of where she stands with the people of CT which they have clearly outlined before(http://crookedtimber.org/2005/05/06/bonevac-on-coulter/ ).

But there is an interesting side to this, if we allowed AC, or people of her thinking, to run the country they would be loved by all. Well, all that were allowed to live that is.

[Tim]

Jeff,

Who are these other groups that are protesting at military funerals? I've searched Google and Yahoo, but haven't been able to locate an article that refers to any group other than the conservative Christians in the Westboro Baptist Church. How can I find out more about these other groups that are protesting at funerals?

[Xero]

In case you want to know how many time WBC has picked a soldiers funeral please check this out from their own site. http://www.godhatesfags.com/photos/thisyear.html

[Xero]

So Fred Phelps(http://blank.org/addict/) is a Leftist? Personally I never considered hatred of homosexuals(http://www.godhatesfags.com/) to be a very liberal concept. Jeff you really need to stop calling everyone leftist, unless you really think you are the only right-wing conservative. Next you'll be saying Dubbya is a leftist liberal communist pinko.

Oh and the Westboro Baptist Church is full of some of the most despicable people on the planet. The have protested more than one funeral so far and there will be more to come. I'm not going to say they are conservative, but they are certainly not left or liberal (Except for the liberal amount of beatings Phelps gave his children)

[Jeff]

Tim, that is but one. Most others are, including THAT one incidently, are Leftist.
Unfortunately, not all Christians are conservative.

[Tim]

I'm a little late with this but, the group that protests at soldier's funerals is an evangelical Christian group that is opposed to homosexuals in the military.

[Xero]

I don't have any issue with opposing points of view, never have. I only take issue with blatant ignorance. To Believe Christians are historically less violent than Muslims is simply ignoring historic fact. To claim that all Muslims want all americans dead is buying into an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. To claim, Left, Liberal, Fascist, Nazi and Socialism are the same thing is being ignorant of the meaning of political terminology.

Just because you say something does not make it fact, be willing and able to back up your statements when they go against what the majority of humanity believes. You don't have to back up statements like "Leftists Suck" because that is an opinion, or "The sky is blue" because that is common knowledge but you would have to back up statements like "The Majority of Republicans are Gay" (even if it is true) since there would be real world data to support or refute that.

[Jeff]

I, for one, enjoy the banter between me and Xero and Coeus. I take zero offense personally from their comments and hope they take none from mine. I am ALL about, however, offending their ideology, as they are, I am quite sure, ready and eager to offend mine.
I will fight Leftism wherever it is. Iraq, US, Europe. Doesn't matter. Leftism is wrong and should be destroyed. The more we all talk about it, the clearer that will become.

[tamsen]

Well, important to remember here we are all Americans, why we can get into name-calling and strident remarking-

but let's move on to more productive (dare I say civil?) discourse (probably will require me posting something discourse-worthy- will work on that tonight) :)

on a different note- George Carlin AND Ann Coulter on Leno tonight...if that ain't TiVO worthy I don't know what is!!!

[Xero]

Coeus, I could have used that warning earlier. I mean I have read some stupid shit in my life, but that one about socialism really takes the cake.

[Jeff]

Ha! THAT one must've struck a chord with Coeus! Truth hurts, huh? LOL!

[Coeus]

I'd like to remind everybody that Jeff is famous for saying stupid shit. It's probably best to ignore him.

http://likesunday.typepad.com/1/2006/01/wowie.html#comments
"As even the least observant among us can readily see, the “Nazis” were SOCIALISTS. Socialism is the political philosophy of the “left,” or “liberal” sector, of our political spectrum. Ipso facto: Liberals are fascists and fascism is not only analogous to socialism, it IS socialism ... by another name."
Posted by: Jeff | January 23, 2006 at 03:51 PM

The more you know...
Coeus

[Jeff]

Where are the "moderate" Muslims? Why is there no outcry or movement against what you call a minority of Muslims?

[Xero]

I haven't heard the cry of "They started it" or didn't understand the concepts of "Sticks and Stones" since elementary school.

What can I say except nanni-nanni boo-boo. Logic and reason obviously aren't working.

I'm starting to understand why some Muslims hate us. Heck if they used Jeff's reasoning, the idea that an entire group of people should be wiped out because of the belief of a select minority, they would be fully justified in killing us all since there are more than few ugly americans, like the KKK, Neo Nazi Skin Heads, Evangelists, Republicans, and other hate groups.

[Jeff]

First, the Crusades were a response to the earlier and maybe original terrosits of Islamic Jihad. Your anger toward me and what you perceive as ignorance or stupidity is quite misdirected. It is the Islamic Jihadists that have openly stated they will kill us all. My wishing to avoid that can hardly be considered invalid. The difference between you and I on this subject is that I believe the Jihadists when they say death to Israel and to America. You seem to be comfortable dismissing them and their ilk as an abberation. Time will tell who is the more ignorant.

[Jeff]

:)

[Xero]

This is not the first time Jeff has spouted this genocidal rhetoric, and probably won't be the last. Luckily I am wise enough to realize that Jeff is simply out to get people riled up and doesn't care to add anything to the conversation. At least I hope this is the case and that we don't have american citizens proposing we bring back "The Final Solution" and apply it to "The Muslim Question."

I can't otherwise figure out the logic expressed in Jeff's comments. For some reason a single attack on US soil by a fanatical organization that happens to contain people of the same faith is an excuse for genocide, yet we are supposed to forget about hundreds of years of Inquisitions and Crusades, let alone numerous other killings and wars in the name of Jesus and God. I know that I am in a minority, where logic overpowers gut reaction, but I still think there must be some limit to the amount of ignorance people will accept before proclaiming the desire for the destruction of all people that think differently than us.

If it turns out I am wrong and Jeff honestly believes these things he says then I hope to some day meet him. Not so I could harm him or educate him or anything like that. Rather than perpetuate hate I would just like to give him a hug, possibly show him the love that his parents obviously never did.

[Jeff]

The name "Xero" fits. Christians are more dangerous? What a dumbass. We could use a LOT more Godliness in our government, not less. And a lot more in society as well. As far as Ann, the simple fact remains: she is SPOT ON with regards to those specific widows. Convert them to Buddhism? Fine by me. The problem though that you, the Left and even Ann may not yet have figured out is that these Muslims will never be converted and will never stop their Jihad until you and us are dead. I'm not willing to wait. I'm not willing to negotiate. We need t keep going after them and keep killing them until there are none left. The we can get back to your silly little meaningless debates about whether there is merit to Judeo-Christian ideals in our gov't and society or not.

[tamsen]

Yes, you would think we should convert them to Tibetan Buddhism, a nice, pacifist philosophy, instead.

[Xero]

Since I tend to avoid conservative news, since I want to atleast think there is a possibility I am getting a straight answer from the media, I didn't know who this Ann Coulter was, so I went out and did a little research. At first I was amused, and was reminded of why I am glad I have a significant amount of testosterone in my system to balance the evils of estrogen. But as I read more I have come to realize that it didn't take the incident in "Godless" (a ridicules title for a political book, since we could all use a little less "God" in our government) to realize that Ms. Coulter is a complete whack job. Then again I can't see how, in reference to muslims and arabs, she could say "We know who the homicidal maniacs are." and then follow it up with "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." I mean does it really make since to convert a mildly militant population to the organization that is responsible for more death than any other in history? I just can't see the logic there.

[Jeff]

Darts at funerals? No, but neither do I protest and demonstrate at our soldiers funerals like so many on the Left are so fond of.

[tamsen]

Right for a lunatic, sure. Spend a lot of time throwing darts at funerals, do you? Bet she hate those widows that dare to collect SS from their dead husbands earnings, too, the bitches.

[Jeff]

Overlooking one important fact. She is right.